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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2017.04.04 00:06:06 -
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elitatwo wrote:No, they are not. And ships like a Caracal don't even have enough fitting room to fit heavy launchers in the first place.
Max skills it fits 5x T2 HAM launcher, T2 MWD, and T2 LSE, needing only 1% powergrid bonus to make it fit. With Powergrid Upgrades 3 and without Advanced Weapon Upgrades (same as a starter toon), it fits T1 versions of those mods (not compact) using 700 out of 724.5 MW powergrid. Still got room to fit everything else.
You don't have to fit a 1600mm armor plate to your Caracal.
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
3053
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Posted - 2017.04.04 17:12:47 -
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Merin Ryskin wrote:The actual solution here is to buff "normal" size missiles so they can hit same-size targets for full (or at least near-full) dps, with better dps than undersized missiles (which have fine paper dps as they are).
Maybe the missiles are supposed to be able to do more damage to larger targets, and the damage they are already doing to medium targets is intended and balanced? After all, they have excellent range and flexible choice of damage. Maybe the RLMLs are overpowered by offering cruiser missile paper DPS which translates too easily onto the target.
Skia Aumer wrote:While you're at it, could you take a look at precision light missiles? In my opinion they lack velocity already, and now that they lose bonuses from many hulls, it puts them into an even weaker place.
Fly a Kestrel if you want precision light missile range bonus. That's what Kestrels are for. If you can't be bothered to fly a frigate, you shouldn't be able to blap mobile interceptors. Alternatively you could use Minmatar recon ships and not need precision missiles! It's an excellent reminder that more ships can make up for not having the right ships.
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
3053
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Posted - 2017.04.05 03:32:29 -
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Merin Ryskin wrote:That makes no sense at all. Why should all missiles be oversized weapons,
Because...
Merin Ryskin wrote:their maximum paper dps isn't any better than equivalent gun dps.
It's worse. But what if it wasn't? It should be worse, but what if instead of buffing medium missiles' application, their damage was buffed instead? They could deal reasonable damage to cruiser-sized targets but higher damage to larger targets or webbed+painted cruisers. That would give them an interesting trait to help make up for their overall cumbersome nature. Also, since they're built to have less damage than turrets, it is less likely they will become overpowered with a bit of extra damage.
What if the Phoenix had the highest DPS of any dreadnought, but only against large citadels or webbed+painted titans?
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
3053
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Posted - 2017.04.13 05:14:39 -
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Helene Fidard wrote:The problem has always been range and application.
It has always been cruisers getting the range bonus. Without the bonus, everything is great. Kestrels still are sniper frigates, but now Caracals are not sniper frigates.
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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